tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4834395892091327520.post4759152946653392926..comments2023-12-10T08:09:17.786+00:00Comments on Large blooming flower: This is what a real hate word looks likeJennyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08027942517258679266noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4834395892091327520.post-87586516959327665832011-11-09T16:51:15.735+00:002011-11-09T16:51:15.735+00:00This research used only current English, and from ...This research used only current English, and from a large enough corpus to have removed bias towards a particular set of sources.<br /><br />The interesting thing it shows for me about the N-word is how the rest of the world has moved on but the language of racists has stayed in a timewarp.<br /><br />The T-word's offensiveness depends on the context in which it is used while the N-word's doesn't. I hear the T-word constantly being used within the trans community so while I agree it can be offensive in some contexts and I don't use it much myself I can not describe it as an intrinsically offensive word. To do so would be to ignore completely the evidence of my own ears.<br /><br />It is easy to fall into the trap of prescribing language use based on one's preconceptions about it. With this little piece of research I hoped to show here that the real-life evidence of how this word is used in the wild does not quite match those preconceptions.Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08027942517258679266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4834395892091327520.post-85475867866523524432011-11-09T08:42:29.285+00:002011-11-09T08:42:29.285+00:00This is an interesting approach but you do need to...This is an interesting approach but you do need to be careful with context and range of sources. The T-word may be over-represented by the sheer volume of porn sources and not represent popular culture at all outside this or the club scene. Similarly the N-word has changed over time, and representation and association will have changed from historical contexts where it was used liberally, to the rather more restrained and therefore filtered usage more recently. So to then compare these as similar hate contexts isn't accurate. The N-word context is one of almost universal disdain historically. The T-word might also be a fond representation from "the scene".<br /><br />Are black people insulted because the N-word associates them with dirt and laziness (now)? Or because people only use it in a demeaning way? So the T-word. It is primarily hurtful if its use demeans or diminishes by relating an individual to a false context (sex and sexual activity) thus inhibiting understanding, categorising, othering.<br /><br />Hate is a very strong word, but I might still argue that the insult a black person feels is really no different from that a trans person feels, when addressed in a demeaning way and in such a way to reinforce misconception and wrong attitudes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4834395892091327520.post-64174815545184304152011-08-28T10:16:09.171+01:002011-08-28T10:16:09.171+01:00I have to say, my target here was people who try t...I have to say, my target here was people who try to co-opt the black American experience to bolster the trans experience, rather than the insult level of the T-word itself. <br /><br />For me I know too many within our community who use the T-word like confetti to dismiss it as a universal hate word. Yes, insult is in the eye of the insulted, but to change sense in the wider language it has to have evidence of universal meaning, and the T-word not only has several senses outside our community but has plenty of non-offensive use within our community.<br /><br />I still know enough people who do see it as an insult though to rarely use it myself. <br /><br />@Deena, now you're just being subversive :)Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08027942517258679266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4834395892091327520.post-17608185621673883182011-08-24T10:52:31.856+01:002011-08-24T10:52:31.856+01:00Still not sure whether the straightforward compari...Still not sure whether the straightforward comparison is that helpful. The thing that's rarely spoken of is that tranny is in constant use as an insult within the gay community to mean an overly hyper feminised gay man : a hot tranny mess. I know a couple of drag queens who react very badly to having the word used about them because they see themselves as ordinary gay men and see trans people as simply weird. Personally I've only ever heard the word used by gay men as a rather patronising put down, an assumption that we're on the same continuum as queens in the gay world. <br />The comparison might be more apt in terms of how ethnic asians in the US might react to being called N...Sophiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776623935042983118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4834395892091327520.post-25837999516015891922011-08-23T11:33:10.446+01:002011-08-23T11:33:10.446+01:00Mmm....From my persepective Jenny a word is only o...Mmm....From my persepective Jenny a word is only offensive to the ear of the listener. Sticks and stones notwithstanding. It isn't the word that hurts, it's the inference. We focus on the word far more than the person delivering it I think whereas perhaps, that should be the other way round.<br /><br />Shirley Anne xxxShirley Annehttp://www.minkyweasel.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4834395892091327520.post-13873754057885724082011-08-23T11:11:35.208+01:002011-08-23T11:11:35.208+01:00Uppity Tranny.Uppity Tranny.Deenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14347031772197022065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4834395892091327520.post-58006882107059051892011-08-23T10:07:13.724+01:002011-08-23T10:07:13.724+01:00You must be about halfway to your doctorate with t...You must be about halfway to your doctorate with this work, look forward to writing to Dr Jenny. People have made careers with less!Carolinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133031265351841626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4834395892091327520.post-4390709618027000012011-08-23T08:33:57.225+01:002011-08-23T08:33:57.225+01:00This is a very good idea, well executed and with r...This is a very good idea, well executed and with results that speak for themselves. Well, results that you can see. Cor.Dru Marlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03697874363783821382noreply@blogger.com